Merging Spiritual Collectivism with Physical Individualism

This topic has been brewing in my head for a while now and I figured it was time to write a post on it since I've never really heard anyone talk about this type of a thing before. I don't have it fully meshed out yet but hopefully you will get something out of it.

by Quinton Figueroa on January 8th, 2016

Your resources are belong to me

In the spiritual world we are all connected and we are all one. In the spiritual world resources are limitless and all things happen instantly. In the physical world we are not connected to each other and we are individuals. In the physical world resources must first be transformed from their initial state and things take time. So we try to merge spiritual collectivism with physical individualism and we run into problems.

This same thing happens with love and reason. They both are at opposites with each other. I talk a lot about the relationship between love and reason in my book Rule By Ignorance. Growing in love often times means you're not growing in reason. Growing in reason often times means you're not growing in love. It's hard to be both a rational person and a loving person. These two things pull at each other. This is why many loving people are not logically smart and many logical people come across rash and not very loving.

So in physical world we experience this same relationship of love and reason with spiritual collectivism and physical individualism. Most of the spiritual books and teachers will talk about spiritual things like how we are all connected. And this is true at the spiritual level. Spiritually speaking we are all connected. We are all part of the same oneness at the higher levels. At the spiritual level we don't have the ego identity we do at the physical level. So many of the spiritual teachings we hear about reflect this. They are not ego-centric but rather love-centric. Spiritual teachings are not rational, but loving. This is collectivism -- the real kind.

"The resources in the physical world are different than the resources in the spiritual world"

Spirituality in a way is closer to Communism or Socialism. But the Communism of the spiritual world is different because resources are infinite and don't require human labor or innovation to transform them into something usable. In the spiritual world we don't worry about food or shelter or any of the other things we worry about with a physical body. So the rules are different for the spiritual world. The spiritual world has a different environment with a different set of rules.

If we look at the physical world in contrast to the spiritual world we will notice a few main differences. We are not immediately all connected in this physical world. You have an ego, I have an ego, and everyone else has their own individual ego. Each person has their own body and identity. Yes, we are still connected at the higher levels, but at the physical level we are not. Your choices you make physically are your choices physically. I can't make your choices for you in the physical world and you can't make my choices for me in the physical world. When we are in bodies we are living with different rules than when we are not in bodies.

The resources in the physical world are different than the resources in the spiritual world. In the physical world you can't as easily just think of something and have it appear. Time exists in the physical world. Our own individual self and ego gets in-between our physical body and our higher self. So in the physical world resources don't automatically transform themselves into what we desire, at least not at the speed we would always like.

In the physical world it takes time to create food. We have to either hunt it, grow it or find it somewhere. It doesn't just magically fall into our lap. So food take some type of effort and time to create in the physical world, unlike the spiritual world which requires no food. The same can be said about any other resource which we use in the physical world: water, clothing and transportation all require some type of physical transformation of them so that they can exist in the forms we use in this physical world.

In the spiritual world things happen instantly. In the physical world deferral of gratification kicks in. Deferral of gratification is a big part of what government and societies are all about. The countries we live in and the way they are structured is largely based around time, and how much time people are willing to put off what they want.

Allow me to explain...

Time and Gratification

Some people in the world are more "in the moment". These people are happy with the present moment and don't care much about the future. These people would rather defer gratification in the future for gratification right now. These are people who would rather pay more for something right now than less for something later. These are people that would rather have fun right now than worry about if their fun right now will later create things that are not so fun. These are people who live in the moment.

"Some people play completely in the physical world without giving any consideration to the spiritual world"

And it's not that it is right or wrong to live in the moment. It's a touchy subject because spiritually speaking we should all be living in the moment. Spiritually speaking, living in the moment and understanding that there really is no past or future is correct. Time really doesn't exist and there really is only the moment of now. So many people take this spiritual truth, either knowingly or unknowingly, and then bring it into their physical life.

And then you have those people in the world that care less about the present moment and care much more about the future. These people would rather put off some type of gratification right now for an even greater gratification later. These are the people that save or invest their money. These are the people that are okay with a little pain now if in the future it will work out better for them. This is a more physical world principle.

And this is tricky because spiritually speaking this is an incorrect way to go about life, but physically speaking this is a fairly correct way to go about life, at least as far as physical resources are concerned. If you put things off and save them in the physical world you are able to accumulate resources that can help further yourself in the future. If you put stuff off in the physical world it works most like a snowball that becomes larger and larger the more you put off. This is why people who save and invest their money usually end up with a lot more because their money works for them. This is why equity and assets make sense from a physical perspective.

And this is the pickle. We have different rules working better depending on which environment we are playing in. If we are living our life as a complete spiritual being then the spiritual now will work very well. In the spiritual now we may not have resources or money saving. But in the spiritual now we won't need them and will have what we do need provided for us at all times. In the spiritual now our connectedness to our higher self will trump the physical limitations.

And in the physical non-now world of time there are certain benefits to not living in the moment. In the physical world it may make sense to put things off in order to create a better future for your physical self and your physical loved ones. Not everyone is connected to the spiritual world in the same way. Some people play completely in the physical world without giving any consideration to the spiritual world. So for these types of people spiritual principles will become perverted by their physical reality. They will take spiritual principles and incorrectly apply them to the physical world.

Government

So now we reach the government side of all this. In the government we have two groups of people. Those that want things now (moreso the left and liberals) and those that will wait for things (moreso the right and conservatives). You see this both in which layer of time these people live in and in which type of government they want to create.

The left wants to create a collectivist government where people are all living in the moment and not worrying about what happens later. To most Liberals they care more about how they feel right now and don't care about how they will feel later. These people care less about the consequences of their actions and more about the current feeling of their actions right now. If they help 1 person at the expense of 100 others they don't care. They don't care about the consequences of their actions because that is a form of deferral of gratification and these people don't operate like that. They are in the moment. They want to feel good right now. They are justified by how their actions make them feel right now.

The right wants to create an individualist government where people are putting off the current moment for gratification later. For most Conservatives they don't care about feeling bad right now if later they will feel good. Conservatives care much more about the consequences of their actions than they do their actions themselves. If conservatives help 1 person at the expense of 100 others they do care. Conservatives are more future oriented. They want to create a better future. They are justified by the actions they are taking right now to create and work towards a better future.

What am I getting at?

So what happens is we have people who want to live in the moment and are okay forcing other people to subsidize their in the moment lifestyle regardless of the physical world limitations. The in the moment people incorrectly take their spiritual principles and force them into a physical world that other people must labor for and put time into supporting. These spiritual collectivist principles enslave other people in the physical world. We have people forcing Communism into a world that doesn't have infinite transformation of resources. It takes human time and energy to transform resources and Communism doesn't account for this. So spiritually it may be right, but physically it is not.

"In the spiritual world we don't have economics. In the spiritual world we don't have to prioritize decisions."

The main thing I am trying to show is how if we're playing by physical rules we're going to have to be careful or at least more thoughtful about trying to force spiritual rules into it. Most people don't think at all about this kind of thing which is why people try to create Communism on this world when it is not possible. Communism can't work on this world as long as resources must be transformed through human labor. Many don't have the capacity to understand this. This gets into an economic discussion which is geared towards optimizing physical resources. In the spiritual world we don't have economics. In the spiritual world we don't have to prioritize decisions. In the spiritual world we don't have to defer gratification of one thing for another.

Yes, of course if we all lived connected and in sync with our higher selves this would work out much better. But guess what? We don't! Far from it. Most of the people who are in the moment are not in the moment by conscious choice, they are not in the moment for spiritual growth. No, oh no -- they are in the moment because that is what they default to. People don't have the ability to be anything except in the moment. So most people are not in the moment in a spiritual way, they are in the moment in a limited way.

What many of these people who live in the moment don't realize is that their collectivist ideals use force on other people, which is not a spiritual principle. So you have one spiritual principle which works in the spiritual world, creating a detrimental thing in the physical world, namely: the initiation of force. The initiation of force is not good spiritually or physically. But in the spiritual world you can be collectivist without using force. In the physical world you can't unless everyone is completely spiritual and masters of their ego and self, which nobody is even close to being. So it doesn't work.

This is why Communism and Socialism doesn't work here right now. Because we have people that aren't spiritual and resource transformation that isn't infinite.

 Filed under: Spiritual, Collectivism, Communism, Socialism, Individualism, Ego

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Quinton Figueroa

Quinton Figueroa

Los Angeles, CA

I am an entrepreneur at heart. Throughout my whole life I have enjoyed building real businesses by solving real problems. Business is life itself. My goal with businesses is to help move the human ...

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