Where is the evidence for fun, happiness and love?

Atheists do not believe in God because there is no evidence for God, according to them. My question would be, where is the evidence for fun, happiness and love? How do you quantify this, and how can it be scientifically represented with our current stage and understanding in science. If it can not be quantified, measured and tested under the scientific method with the same scrutiny and integrity as God then surely there is no place for it in our lives.

I would appreciate any response to this as I find this question a bit puzzling.

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Mike (FVThinker) Burns: They HAVE been quantified

Most of the things you bring up HAVE been quantified to some extent. Love, fun and happiness have been clearly associated with changes in brain chemistry and electrical activity. It is our awareness of these that we interpret as love, fun and happiness.

Similarly, 'spiritual' experiences are explainable through this same chemistry and electrical activity.

Quinton Figueroa: Similarly, 'spiritual'
@Mike (FVThinker) Burns (view comment)

Similarly, 'spiritual' experiences are explainable through this same chemistry and electrical activity.

Right, so why then can love be acceptable but not God?

Grant LaFleche: Your question is, I am sorry

Your question is, I am sorry to say, an old canard. The religious often try to turn the arguments used by agnositics, atheists and skepetics around by saying "well atheism is a religion too" or "Well you cannot prove love."

Well indeed you can. Our emotions are products of our minds and can have the most staggering physiological effects. Stress can make us sick. Laugher can release chemicals in our brains that make us feel good. Love can make us both feel good, and awful. Our emotions and our bodies reaction to them do not come from the ether, but are the result of how our brains work.

one can observe the effects of emotion both on the human body and in human behavior. This is actually very common place.

You write; "If it can not be quantified, measured and tested under the scientific method" but it can. We can actually observe which areas of the brain are active during emotional responses. There has been testing for decades on what triggers emotional responses in humans.

Quinton Figueroa: I appreciate the response
@Grant LaFleche (view comment)

This then begs the question:

How then, is God not any of these things? How is God any different than love in the sense that emotional responses can be made in the brain with God? If it is reasonable for love to be acceptable because it has emotional effects on our brains, how then is God any different?

Matt: Question For God's Loyal Followers

My Aunt, who is 39 years old - a beautiful young vibrant woman who had perfect health, was diagnosed with a cancerous stage 4 tumor in her brain stem a couple months ago. She died a week ago and our family watched her SUFFER for weeks. At the funeral last weekend, the priest went on and on about how God had a pretty garden in heaven that had an empty spot for a beautiful flower. My Aunt was chosen for that spot and now she's an Angel - blah blah blah.

So, God, for whatever reasons wanted my Aunt in heaven. So, he decides to give her a tumor in the worst possible spot in the body. In her last hours, we stood around her bed and watched as one of her eyes became lazy. The left side of her lips drooped down to her chin. Her vocal chords collapsed - she could not speak, but could think clearly. She had 20+ blood clots in her lungs and developed pnemonia. Though a few of us were holding her hand as she lay there suffering, it wasn't enough to stop her from having small seizures. When she would take a breath, all you could hear, were gurgling sounds from all of the liquid built up in her lungs. Intervals in between her breaths got longer and longer until her heart completely stopped.

I'm really glad she's in heaven right now, looking down on the two 6-year old twins she left behind who now don't have their biological mother to take care of them. But I'm sure God has his reasons, right? *wink* *wink*

Sarcasm aside, just hearing you trying to compare happiness and love to God, makes me roll my eyes and laugh. You're so blinded by your faith and oblivious to what science is, it truly is pathetic.

Religion was created to sugar-coat bad things that happen in our lives. Snap out of it!

Quinton Figueroa: I am sorry to hear about
@Matt (view comment)

I am sorry to hear about your aunt.

Sarcasm aside, just hearing you trying to compare happiness and love to God, makes me roll my eyes and laugh. You're so blinded by your faith and oblivious to what science is, it truly is pathetic.

My question still stands and you have not provided a scientific answer.

Thanks!

Anonymous: Chemicals in the brain

It's pretty easy to quantify fun, happiness and love. Actually, it's as easy as ml, cc and volts.

I don't know if you're aware, but the scientists have recently also learned how to induce out of body experiences. And deja-vu. And they did it without ever needing to bring God into the equation.

It really is an amazing machine, our brain. It's only that, though. An electrobiochemical machine.

Quinton Figueroa: I don't quite get this
@Anonymous (view comment)

I don't quite get this thought. So since we can quantify fun, happiness and love by measuring it in ml, cc and volts it makes them real? I can quantify somebody's God experience in their brain too. How is love any more real than God? I really don't get it.

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